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    Took my 96 NJ 2.8td into a specialist 4WD Wheel Alignment shop the other day for the first wheel alignment that I have had done to the Paj since owning it. To my amazement, It came back with a huge lift in the front. I am assuming that when they entered the vehicle info into the computer, the computer told them what the factory set height should be and therefore they turned up the torsian bars and reset it to the factory hight? Anybody else had this experience, And if this is the case, 90% of similar age Pajeros to mine are all riding well under their factory height
    2002 NM 3.2DiD GLS

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    I'm thinking the same thing for mine (SWB NK GLS). I haven't given it a wheel alignment in a while (been overseas and hadn't touched the car in over a year - it was driven once a fortnight by dad) so I'll let you know when I get it done in a few days...I took it for a spin last week so this pic is the most recent I got.

    I am looking at suspension options for it (the fun bit, the research and shopping around) at the moment. I am keen to get it ASAP so any opinions are good. ARB priced it as per the catalogue (and a 20mm lift only!) but with torsion adjustment it might be more...any opinions are welcome...
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    • #3
      Originally posted by huarache24 View Post
      I'm thinking the same thing for mine (SWB NK GLS). I haven't given it a wheel alignment in a while (been overseas and hadn't touched the car in over a year - it was driven once a fortnight by dad) so I'll let you know when I get it done in a few days...I took it for a spin last week so this pic is the most recent I got.

      I am looking at suspension options for it (the fun bit, the research and shopping around) at the moment. I am keen to get it ASAP so any opinions are good. ARB priced it as per the catalogue (and a 20mm lift only!) but with torsion adjustment it might be more...any opinions are welcome...
      Nice clean SWB by the way!
      NP GLS DID Auto: ARB Bar, Warn XD9000, Rear ARB Locker, Dobinsons, Bilsteins, 33" BFG MT's, 61Lt Sub Tank, Striker 170's, Dual Batts, etc. etc. etc.

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      • #4
        yeah thanks...since I got back I've been fixing up all the little annoying bits (chips/scratches, missing interior plastic/rubber bits, screws) as well as updated the old sound system (got a Pioneer DVD with reverse camera and bluetooth), major service etc, etc. It's time to use her again after a loooong break...

        Oh BTW, I got my alignment and the damn thing was off at the front left by...30mm!!!. It sits right (noticeably higher) now and the toughest thing I now have to contemplate is the suspension/tyre set up from the many options to choose from. Been quoted Tough Dogs (Foam Cell type) for around $700 fitted for all four. It is between these and ARB...any thoughts? I will probably get coils too (King Springs or again, the ARB ones).
        huarache24

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        • #5
          Hey, In your attached pic, Yours looks to be riding about the same as where mine used to, But you can see in my pic, That mine now rides pretty high in the front. Nice SWB by the way.
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          2002 NM 3.2DiD GLS

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          • #6
            I started noticing it on other Paj's driving round too...yeah yours is riding nice and high (and correct which is the most important thing) now, there is one around the corner from where I live exactly like yours sitting almost as low as a ute's bonnet. Appreciate the post BTW, it got me thinking that mine was sitting low and as you read, it turned out that it was quite off so thanks for bringing it up...

            Yeah the shortie is nice, but it can always be nicer and more bits and pieces to come very shortly...I want this puppy sorted before Christmas with a lift/tyres and a winch (it's got an ARB Deluxe Winch Bar on it needing more items to fill some disturbing, vacant 'holes' in it, heh, heh).
            huarache24

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            • #7
              If you don't mind asking, How high do you think they lifted the front. What is the Factory Height Standard?

              I lifted mine 2inchs and 3 months later left CV boot ripped then 1 month after, the right CV boot ripped. I also Noticed the Angle of the CV's were angled down allot, explaining why the CV boots rip, Another thing That I noticed was that the Front wheels Developed a Positive camber aswell from lifting it up to 2inchs higher.

              I decided that it wasn't worth for me to keep replacing the CV boots every so often or didn't want to spend the money to get Manual Locking Hubs, so I put it back to the Original Height of what it was before, I noticed that the camber was normal and the CV's looked like they were pretty much straight with no Angle downwards.

              I would like to know what height is your front from the hub to the Wheel arch. I have 31's on also.
              NJ Shortie 3ltr
              ARB Bullbar, ARB Front and Rear Air Locca, polyair bag suspension, Airtek snorkel, Dual Battery setup, Exhaust setup, Big Doof Doof Stereo

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              • #8
                Originally posted by MITSIR View Post
                If you don't mind asking, How high do you think they lifted the front. What is the Factory Height Standard?

                I lifted mine 2inchs and 3 months later left CV boot ripped then 1 month after, the right CV boot ripped. I also Noticed the Angle of the CV's were angled down allot, explaining why the CV boots rip, Another thing That I noticed was that the Front wheels Developed a Positive camber aswell from lifting it up to 2inchs higher.

                I decided that it wasn't worth for me to keep replacing the CV boots every so often or didn't want to spend the money to get Manual Locking Hubs, so I put it back to the Original Height of what it was before, I noticed that the camber was normal and the CV's looked like they were pretty much straight with no Angle downwards.

                I would like to know what height is your front from the hub to the Wheel arch. I have 31's on also.

                By the looks of it (bout the same as mine) which is roughly about 1.5".

                On mine, there is equidistant spacing between both the upper and lower bumpstops.

                Haven't had a single issue with CV boots as yet.

                Originally posted by breadman View Post
                Hey, In your attached pic, Yours looks to be riding about the same as where mine used to, But you can see in my pic, That mine now rides pretty high in the front. Nice SWB by the way.
                Dude, you need some bigger tyres haha.
                NP GLS DID Auto: ARB Bar, Warn XD9000, Rear ARB Locker, Dobinsons, Bilsteins, 33" BFG MT's, 61Lt Sub Tank, Striker 170's, Dual Batts, etc. etc. etc.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by MITSIR View Post
                  If you don't mind asking, How high do you think they lifted the front. What is the Factory Height Standard?

                  I lifted mine 2inchs and 3 months later left CV boot ripped then 1 month after, the right CV boot ripped. I also Noticed the Angle of the CV's were angled down allot, explaining why the CV boots rip, Another thing That I noticed was that the Front wheels Developed a Positive camber aswell from lifting it up to 2inchs higher.

                  I decided that it wasn't worth for me to keep replacing the CV boots every so often or didn't want to spend the money to get Manual Locking Hubs, so I put it back to the Original Height of what it was before, I noticed that the camber was normal and the CV's looked like they were pretty much straight with no Angle downwards.

                  I would like to know what height is your front from the hub to the Wheel arch. I have 31's on also.
                  Didn't ask for what the factory height was, I took it to my normal 4wd place (been going there for all the cars I've had so I trust them) and they must have referenced it off a spec sheet. The alignment tells you how off it is, and they adjusted to suit. It rides fine though, but I still am unhappy with the factory suspension so...

                  Yeah, I gotta agree with the other dude, bigger tyres on that thing would help...I'm gettiing the BFG A/T's in the 265/75/16's. Overall, it should give me about 2-3 inches in lift with the suspension that I have yet to decide on (am considering the TJM option now too to add to the confusion - I know, I know, King Springs make the coils for all of them, it's just the shocks I'm considering now). Life is indeed hard...
                  huarache24

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by huarache24 View Post
                    2-3 inches in lift with the suspension that I have yet to decide on (am considering the TJM option now too to add to the confusion - I know, I know, King Springs make the coils for all of them, it's just the shocks I'm considering now). Life is indeed hard...
                    As for the shocks. I'm running the OME 2" lift - I don't know how long it has been in there, but I was assume 3-5 years judging by the wear on some of the components, as well as the shagged torsion bars.

                    The shocks are horrible, I'll give it a bit of sympathy because they have been given a hard time since I've owned it and they are probably fatigued, but there is nothing good to say about them. Personally, I enjoy my touring, and there is nothing worse than feeling fatigued after struggling to drive a couple of hours on corrugated tracks, trying to keep the vehicle from wandering and swaying across the road. Not to mention the damage to your back.

                    So I'm planning to fork out for a set of Koni's this summer, and I have some high expectations (everyone else who has used them, and the cars which i have driven with Konis fitted - Awesome!).

                    Thats my opinion anyhow - Koni's or Bilsteins - Exxy, but you get what you pay for.
                    NP GLS DID Auto: ARB Bar, Warn XD9000, Rear ARB Locker, Dobinsons, Bilsteins, 33" BFG MT's, 61Lt Sub Tank, Striker 170's, Dual Batts, etc. etc. etc.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Ranger J View Post
                      As for the shocks. I'm running the OME 2" lift - I don't know how long it has been in there, but I was assume 3-5 years judging by the wear on some of the components, as well as the shagged torsion bars.

                      The shocks are horrible, I'll give it a bit of sympathy because they have been given a hard time since I've owned it and they are probably fatigued, but there is nothing good to say about them. Personally, I enjoy my touring, and there is nothing worse than feeling fatigued after struggling to drive a couple of hours on corrugated tracks, trying to keep the vehicle from wandering and swaying across the road. Not to mention the damage to your back.

                      So I'm planning to fork out for a set of Koni's this summer, and I have some high expectations (everyone else who has used them, and the cars which i have driven with Konis fitted - Awesome!).

                      Thats my opinion anyhow - Koni's or Bilsteins - Exxy, but you get what you pay for.
                      Cheers for the opinion, I rang up TJM and they of course tried flogging the XGS (even though the dude admitted he rode in Tough Dogs on his Landcruiser), ARB is not a consideration anymore (I really don't want it looking like a McDonald's promotional van with them silly yellow looking things which are painted King Springs anyways with some generic shocks again in yellow) as they just flog the OME which have been around for years...I am considering Tough Dog Foam Cells with King Springs (40mm lift) but am concerned about them being too harsh on a SWB (maybe a less hardcore shock, dunno?). Mind you having had a Sierra before which had 33s and leaf springs, what is considered stiff/uncomfortable on a Paj may be OK for me . Oh well, more thinking...Konis did come to mind too (comfort) as the suspension place I am going to sells them all...any particualr one?
                      huarache24

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by MITSIR View Post
                        If you don't mind asking, How high do you think they lifted the front. What is the Factory Height Standard?

                        I lifted mine 2inchs and 3 months later left CV boot ripped then 1 month after, the right CV boot ripped. I also Noticed the Angle of the CV's were angled down allot, explaining why the CV boots rip, Another thing That I noticed was that the Front wheels Developed a Positive camber aswell from lifting it up to 2inchs higher.

                        I decided that it wasn't worth for me to keep replacing the CV boots every so often or didn't want to spend the money to get Manual Locking Hubs, so I put it back to the Original Height of what it was before, I noticed that the camber was normal and the CV's looked like they were pretty much straight with no Angle downwards.

                        I would like to know what height is your front from the hub to the Wheel arch. I have 31's on also.
                        I can tell you the height from the ground running a straight line directly through the middle of the hub to the point it touches the wheel arch, Drivers side is 902mm and Passenger side is 900mm
                        2002 NM 3.2DiD GLS

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