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  • Is the cargo barrier wasted space there by design?

    Hey all,

    I finally picked up a Milford cargo barrier for my old PA Challenger, and bought a new fitting kit to suit. As per another thread, following the placement in the instructions results in an approx 10cm wasted gap behind the back seats. If I push the barrier up to be flush with the seats, it still fits nicely and the hole placement looks no less structurally significant than where the instructions put them.

    Before I go and modify the design by moving it forward, is there any reason why they would have left this gap? I suppose you could fit a couple of jackets or recovery gear between the seat and the cage, but otherwise it just seems an odd waste of cargo space.

    Any advice before I start drilling would be appreciated!

    Mike

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    Originally posted by serapax View Post
    Hey all,

    I finally picked up a Milford cargo barrier for my old PA Challenger, and bought a new fitting kit to suit. As per another thread, following the placement in the instructions results in an approx 10cm wasted gap behind the back seats. If I push the barrier up to be flush with the seats, it still fits nicely and the hole placement looks no less structurally significant than where the instructions put them.

    Before I go and modify the design by moving it forward, is there any reason why they would have left this gap? I suppose you could fit a couple of jackets or recovery gear between the seat and the cage, but otherwise it just seems an odd waste of cargo space.

    Any advice before I start drilling would be appreciated!

    Mike
    Presumably the seats in the second row recline in at least one trim spec in the challengers. Usually they are shaped to allow room for this.
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    • #3
      The mounting straps have a little wave in them and I always thought that the space behind the seat was left there to allow for the straps to deform/stretch (kinda like a progressive slow down instead of a dead stop) when the barrier was hit by something in an accident.
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      • #4
        Originally posted by dhula View Post
        The mounting straps have a little wave in them and I always thought that the space behind the seat was left there to allow for the straps to deform/stretch (kinda like a progressive slow down instead of a dead stop) when the barrier was hit by something in an accident.
        Reckon your spot on. They also deliberately cant the top of the barrier rewards so that the barrier deflects the energy downwards and in a rollover is more often than not biased to fold/deform the barrier rear wards rather than forward towards the rear passengers.

        Embrace the gap I say. Good for tarps, raincoats, pajero workshop manual. Etc, etc.

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        • #5
          Both Dhula and Conquistador are correct.
          We had a similar opportunity in our previous 4wd so I fitted a number of bungie cord cargo net pockets and used them to store paper towel, toilet paper, coats, jackets, swimming gear and towels. 4 pockets below seat height and 2 pockets above. It worked really well when we were a family of four travelling and camping without towing.

          cheers, old Jack.
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          • #6
            Thanks for the info - I hadn't really thought of a cargo barrier having it's own crumple zone. However I don't recall the extension arms (for moving it behind the front seats) having the waves in them - I'll check when I get home.
            I'll also play around with the positioning a bit more - it does look a lot neater against the seat, but I don't want to compromise the structural design element.
            Cheers!
            Mike

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