Hi all
As of November 2013, all vehicles sold in Australia will have to be fitted with ESC/ASC or whatever else it might be called. It's been compulsory on certain types of vehicle for a few years now, but now it's basically all vehicles... All PB and PC Challengers have ASC as standard.
Now, Old Jack has been telling us till he's blue in the face that on a vehicle with ESC/ACS, you will have a whole lot of trouble modifying your suspension legally if you're in a state that has adopted Vehicle Standards bulletin (VBS) 14 (Like WA). And modifying your vehicle illegally can have ramifications on your insurance, and the police's right to whack a yellow sticker on your windscreen.
VBS 14 is a bit grey on the subject of ESC if you ask me. Considering that it's so specific everywhere else.
It basically says that you can modify your ESC/ASC equipped car to your hearts content as long as you can prove either through vehicle manufacturer statements, or through testing, that the ESC hasn't been affected.
So this becomes a game of responsibility passing...
I asked Mitsubishi what they reckon. They said that they don't recommend changing anything at all anywhere, ever... And if you do and things go wrong then it's your oooowwn fault! That's the short version anyway.
I've talked to a few suspension installers and they've all said not to bother because you won't get it past the guys that sign off on your engineering statements anyway...
I've talked to the engineering guys and they've said they'd not sign off on it because they can't 100% test that the ESC/ASC hasn't been affected.
I've talked to our Dept of Transport in WA and they said 'yeah good luck with that'...
So I've been digging around trying to find out anyone who is prepared to stand up and say 'Your ESC/ASC won't be affected!'
Impossible task you might say... I thought so... Then I found this:
http://www.arb.com.au/getting-starte...on_and_ESC.php
Way to go OME! I wonder if an engineering guy would sign off on it after reading that...
Does anyone else know of any other manufacturer statements such as this?
As of November 2013, all vehicles sold in Australia will have to be fitted with ESC/ASC or whatever else it might be called. It's been compulsory on certain types of vehicle for a few years now, but now it's basically all vehicles... All PB and PC Challengers have ASC as standard.
Now, Old Jack has been telling us till he's blue in the face that on a vehicle with ESC/ACS, you will have a whole lot of trouble modifying your suspension legally if you're in a state that has adopted Vehicle Standards bulletin (VBS) 14 (Like WA). And modifying your vehicle illegally can have ramifications on your insurance, and the police's right to whack a yellow sticker on your windscreen.
VBS 14 is a bit grey on the subject of ESC if you ask me. Considering that it's so specific everywhere else.
It basically says that you can modify your ESC/ASC equipped car to your hearts content as long as you can prove either through vehicle manufacturer statements, or through testing, that the ESC hasn't been affected.
So this becomes a game of responsibility passing...
I asked Mitsubishi what they reckon. They said that they don't recommend changing anything at all anywhere, ever... And if you do and things go wrong then it's your oooowwn fault! That's the short version anyway.
I've talked to a few suspension installers and they've all said not to bother because you won't get it past the guys that sign off on your engineering statements anyway...
I've talked to the engineering guys and they've said they'd not sign off on it because they can't 100% test that the ESC/ASC hasn't been affected.
I've talked to our Dept of Transport in WA and they said 'yeah good luck with that'...
So I've been digging around trying to find out anyone who is prepared to stand up and say 'Your ESC/ASC won't be affected!'
Impossible task you might say... I thought so... Then I found this:
http://www.arb.com.au/getting-starte...on_and_ESC.php
Way to go OME! I wonder if an engineering guy would sign off on it after reading that...
Does anyone else know of any other manufacturer statements such as this?
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