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  • 99 NL Escape Extra brake lights??

    G'day all, finally pulled the tail lights off and discovered that there ARE globes fitted on my side tail lights, I mean the ones fitted to the body not the ones in the lower bar.
    Anyway I am condering if they should work?? they do nothing, I have all normal lights in the lower bar and just thought the red plastic on the body where the indicators where was cosmetic.
    My dash has a switch on it that does nothing also, looks like a fog or driving light switch(factory switch), picture of a headlight with zig zag line in front of it. Is this the switch that should control the extra globes?
    99 NL Escape, ARB bar BIG wishlist-LITTLE budget grrrr

  • #2
    I have converted those fog lamps into stop/tail combination lamps.

    I bought the sockets from the lower bumper mounted lights from a wrecker for $10, pulled the metal socket from the fog light plug out (it's just a tight fit, slides out) and inserted the stop/tail combination ones from the bumper. The socket your are putting in is a little smaller - just run a bead of solder up the side of the fitting (on the side opposite the earth contact) and jam it in.

    The wiring runs through the back of where the jack is located in a LWB. Just use the original earth from the fog lamp. A couple of minutes with a test lamp and you can find the right wires. I ran the cable to the back inside flexible split conduit behind the wheel arch trim to the left light and then under the plastic door opening trim to the driver's side light. Taking power from inside the car rather than from the back of the bumper lights saves coming through a rubber bung to get inside and no cables to get hung up on something.

    It is a bit of mucking around, but I now have tail and stop lights in the body and the bumper. I was never going to use those fog lamps anyway.
    98 NL LWB with plenty on the wish list

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    • #3
      so the switch I am referring to on the dash IS supposed to be for fogs? I like your idea of extra stop/tail but was only planning on using them as 2nd set of brake lights.
      So many new things to play with in this toy. LOL
      99 NL Escape, ARB bar BIG wishlist-LITTLE budget grrrr

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      • #4
        The red lights in the body (not the bumper to use your words and avoid any confusion) are indeed the fog lights.
        They will operate when the headlights are turned on and the dashboard switch is pressed. Turning the headlights off will extinguish the foglights, along with depressing the switch for a second time..

        I have converted the fog lights into brake lights on my Escape and the parents NL. It makes a world of difference to someone travelling behind in my opinion.

        The process i did was simple and relatively nasty but it works and its not really noticeable unless you look.

        I spliced into the original +ve brake lane from the bumper and ran a new wire straight up along the bodywork that goes up to the lights mounted to the body. I then terminated the +ve for the foglights, and hooked this new cable into the little tail of wire left behind going to the globe.
        Nasty because i should have done a better looking connection job by soldering the +ves together (like on the parents car) but i just used the cable clips where you lay the wirse side by side and press.

        Only photo i have is the end result:



        Unrelated image but this shows that from the outside with the rear door closed, you can't see the wires. Opening the door, depends how you run the wires, you might see something.


        Hope it helps.
        (Also have good places for air horns and a fire extinguisher if your interested!)
        Last edited by Alex86; 01-11-07, 10:16 AM.
        '99 NL Escape, Manual - Bullbar, roofrack, cargo barrier, D697LT, Tough Dogs, dual batts, rear draws, Narva 225 HID, UHF, led bar etc
        Towing: 4.8m Savage Centurion half-cab w/75hp Mariner

        '99 NL GLS SWB, Auto - Bullbar, D697LT, spotties, UHF, Koni adjustables & King springs.

        Wanted: Adventure.

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        • #5
          I did the same on my NH. Except I found an even easier way. Remove the drivers side sill/scuff panel and under it you'll find the wiring loom from the front to the back. I found both the brake light and fog light wires, cut the fog wire, and spliced and soldered it to the brake light wire. No extra wires, no having to poke through grommets, and an easy conversion back to standard if ever needed.
          "So many projects, so little time... even less money!"

          Trailer enthusist - Repairs, Modifications, Customs, Electric Brake specialist.

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          • #6
            I was really after the tail lights as well as the brake lights. If you are following a Pajero at night it seems silly to have this huge car with little tail lights right at the bottom. The vehicle looks like a black hole.

            In Japan they are stop/tail as when you look at the back of the light cluster it has the part number for the plug. We can't buy it here.
            98 NL LWB with plenty on the wish list

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            • #7
              Am I the only one who uses the fog lamps as fog lamps
              They get plenty of use on those cold and foggy canberra mornings!! Could do with an extra set of tail lamps though, it does look like a blackhole from the rear.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by CRH View Post
                I was really after the tail lights as well as the brake lights.
                Each to their own. Setting them up as just brake lights is dead easy as it's all already there. To add taillights as well requires adding wiring that's not already there.

                Originally posted by actpaj
                Am I the only one who uses the fog lamps as fog lamps
                Quite possibly...
                "So many projects, so little time... even less money!"

                Trailer enthusist - Repairs, Modifications, Customs, Electric Brake specialist.

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                • #9
                  act paj, you aren't the only one. There are all those annoying hyundai drivers that use them all the time!

                  Not alot of fog in Sydney, but it does get dark most nights
                  98 NL LWB with plenty on the wish list

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