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  • Pajero Height Questions

    Hi everyone

    Just having a couple of minor issues finding some good information about pajero height's after lifts.

    I was originally running SWB GQ coils which gave me 790mm from bottom of rim to guard but they have been falling out at full flex and making some horrid sounds when popping back in so I put some GU coils I had lying around in. They have lifted the rear height to 840mm which I think is way too high - plus I'm finding the coils too stiff.

    The front of the car I have to about 800mm from rim to guard and I don't want to go any higher than that (actually wanting to drop 10mm if I can)

    Can anyone tell me the heights they're getting from their; GQ coils lifts/normal pajero 2 inch spring lifts and front ride height?

    I'm chasing some LWB GQ or 80 series coils as I noticed the GU was a touch longer than the SWB GQ.

    Cheers
    1997 NK - Quad cam goodness turning 33 Duratrac's and 4.9 diffs, 2inch lift, steel front/sides/rear, front locker and a winch

    Now pending: Nothing

  • #2
    hi paj man, I had gq lwb coils in my white shogun and they were really good, cant remember the measurements tho sorry, I have gu lwb in my nl gls and when I went to vic last October, it was like a bouncy ball doing the vic/sa border track, jumping everywhere, sometimes lifting the back wheels off the ground all together, I got to newstead and cut 2 coils out, its better but I am trying to get hold of another set from a gq because I think they are better.
    2008 NS Platinum 17x8 alloys with 265x65x17 All Terrains. UHF, auxillary battery in 3rd row seat well, alloy bullbar. window tint. 2" lift. bonnet struts to do away with the rod. catch can, Hikeit X9 throttle controller.

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    • #3
      i got gq LWB and cranked tb's i'll measure mine in the morning mate
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      • #4
        I think the rear of my nl with gu coils was 1050 and the front 1020
        2008 NS Platinum 17x8 alloys with 265x65x17 All Terrains. UHF, auxillary battery in 3rd row seat well, alloy bullbar. window tint. 2" lift. bonnet struts to do away with the rod. catch can, Hikeit X9 throttle controller.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Shogun 2000 View Post
          I think the rear of my nl with gu coils was 1050 and the front 1020
          Is that to the ground or bottom of rim? Most people measure to centre or bottom of rim to keep tyre heights out of the equation

          Can't remember what mine are but your figures sound familiar Paj man.
          I'll measure mine shortly for you.
          97' NK 3ltr GLX LWB Manual | 3" lift | Wildcat headers | K&N air filter | 2.8 crawl gears | 4Terrain clutch | 2.25" exhaust | Factory locker rear | TJM 10,000lb winch | TJM snorkel
          97' NL GLS LWB Auto | 6G75 3.8ltr | Redback Headers

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Pauly Faulkner View Post
            Is that to the ground or bottom of rim? Most people measure to centre or bottom of rim to keep tyre heights out of the equation

            Can't remember what mine are but your figures sound familiar Paj man.
            I'll measure mine shortly for you.
            Don't forget that NKs and NLs are very different in some areas so you won't be able to compare guard measurements. NLs have the body mounted about 40mm higher and also have completely different guards.
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            • #7
              Cheers lads

              The blistered guards on the NL will also be a bit different but all I'm after is ballpark figures.

              Found some LWB springs yesterday so I might give them a crack pending what he wants for them.
              1997 NK - Quad cam goodness turning 33 Duratrac's and 4.9 diffs, 2inch lift, steel front/sides/rear, front locker and a winch

              Now pending: Nothing

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              • #8
                Soooooo

                The LWB coils I was looking at I got for free so I thought they were at least worth a try. I took my GU coils out last night and compared all 3 sets of coils I had.

                I found that the LWB coils were the roughly the same length as the GU coils but their wire diameter was more similar to the SWB coils (a bit thicker). The GQ SWB coils were the smallest (marginally) and thinnest coil. See attached photo for the coil comparison, GU on the left, LWB in the middle and SWB on the right (the snap makes the coils look the same height but they are definitely different, only by about 10-15mm though).

                The LWB coils gave me exactly what I was after, dropped the rear down to around 815mm (although they will probably settle to 810mm) from rim to guard - front stays at 800mm. I'm happy with the height and the extra bit of coil length will hopefully stop them from coming out at full flex (the GU ones were fine). The ride is alot better than the stiffer GU coils.

                As there are many people who are chasing patrol coils these days I will give a quick summary of lessons learnt:

                SWB GQ coils:
                Came from a 1988 Petrol GQ, smallest and lightest spring gave a good ride and flexed well but their smaller height caused them to become very loose at full flex and make one of the most awful sounds I've heard come from my car, sagged alot with weight in the back of the car too. Rear height given was 790mm bottom of rim to guard. I reckon they'd do good on a SWB or maybe Gen 1 Pajero.

                LWB GQ coils:
                Came from a 1990 Diesel GQ, definitely seem to be the best coil for length and spring rate (testing them out this weekend). Rear height is 815mm rim to guard.

                LWB GU coils:
                Came from a 2000 4.5L Petrol GU, heaviest coil of the lot and pushed the rear up to 830mm from rim to guard. Unloaded I felt like I was driving my brothers 78 series ute, with alot of weight in the back the coils were very good (not much sag and handled the bumps very nicely). I reckon they'd be good for a car which does alot of towing/loads up with alot of weight for trips away.

                Providing the LWB coils don't fall out this weekend (I don't think this will happen), they are the best coil for me to use (as are for most other Gen 2 owners on the forum). Luckily I didn't pay for any of the coils so all I lost was the time taken to swap the coils in and out. I will add that I was talking to a bloke in a 4wd shop about the GU coils and he mentioned that the GU rear coils vary alot in terms of coils rate and height as the GU's were released with many different options (extra fuel tanks, seats in the rear and apparently even different vehicle heights/lift heights).

                Cheers
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                1997 NK - Quad cam goodness turning 33 Duratrac's and 4.9 diffs, 2inch lift, steel front/sides/rear, front locker and a winch

                Now pending: Nothing

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                • #9
                  Good info Pajman.
                  Surely we need a sticky'd data base for all this info people go to the trouble of finding out and putting up here, only to have it disappear to page 10 in two months, and then we get newbies asking the same question. I did a similar comparison on shock absorbers a while ago, and it is now on page 50!!

                  What shockers are you running in yours? (I can see it says Tough Dog, but from what? )
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                  • #10
                    Yeah definitely mate - the GU/GQ questions seems to pop up alot as well as which shocks. I'm just running the 2 inch Pajero tough dogs, I'm happy with them and get good flex.

                    Tested out the coils on the weekend and they're a winner, drivers side gets a bit loose at full flex but I'll throw in a rubber seat to quieten it down a bit. Otherwise - great success.
                    1997 NK - Quad cam goodness turning 33 Duratrac's and 4.9 diffs, 2inch lift, steel front/sides/rear, front locker and a winch

                    Now pending: Nothing

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                    • #11
                      just did my measurements with new GQ coils in and this is what I got.
                      front left - 834mm
                      front right - 840mm
                      rear left - 885mm
                      rear right - 890mm
                      I realise that the right is 5mm higher but that is how the coils are to allow for the weight of the driver.
                      2008 NS Platinum 17x8 alloys with 265x65x17 All Terrains. UHF, auxillary battery in 3rd row seat well, alloy bullbar. window tint. 2" lift. bonnet struts to do away with the rod. catch can, Hikeit X9 throttle controller.

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