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  • Wound up Torsion Bars

    So wound up the torsion bars on Sunday and found a few things.
    • Better turning circle
    • There are two upper bump stops
    • The front end now is as hard as a rock

    Have others found this when lifting via torsion bars?
    91 NH Dual Fuel 3ltr V6 Auto GLS Tri Pack with rear locker, 3" Lift, 33" Federal M/T, 100w 9" spotties & 3 stubby holders.

  • #2
    yes i found out some time ago with another 4 wheel drive vehicle i owned that one of the wound up t/ bars broke due to excess strain on the bar. so be carefull where you drive with highly set t/ bars.
    NS 3.2 Diesel, Polor White , Black CSA Rims, HanKook Dynapro AT Tyres, 3 inch custom stainless steel exhaust with free flow Cat & Muffler, 50mm Lift, Old Man Emu Shocks and Springs, TJM Bullbar powder coated White, Custom 7mm Sump Guard & Transmission Guard, 8 inch LED Spotties plus 20 inch LED Light Bar, rear Reverse LED Light, ARB Roof Cage , Tiger11 Awning.

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    • #3
      And you will probably need a wheel alignment as well.

      Winding them up too much will put extra strain on the CV's, so be wary.
      NL Pajero,F&R airlockers, reduction gears, Ironman susp, ARB bullbar, Tigerz winch, Uniden UHF, roolite driving lights, Mickey Thompson ATZ 4 rib &, BFG KM2' tyres

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      • #4
        have you still got a minimum of 12mm clearance between the upper control arm and bumpstop if not you will do damage. if the front suspension has gone hard it normally means the bumpstop ids hitting, raising the ride height with the torsion bar should not significantly stiffen the ride.
        Current vehicles: 1995 3.5l nj Pajero x 2, 1995 2.8td Mitsubishi Delica,2011 Jeep Patriot, 2 x 1971 ta 22 celicas, 74 ta 22 celica, ke 35 corollla with 18rg, 95 gtr 1000, 79 leyland terrier bus ( 350 chev),1978 ke 35 corolla, 1980 ra 40 celica 18rgeu,2011 agricat jd495
        Currently wrecking nh gls lwb, nh gl pov pack, 2 x nj gls lwb nl lwb, NH glx manual, 92 L300 delica

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        • #5
          How have others raised the front then? Are there springs and shock packs?
          91 NH Dual Fuel 3ltr V6 Auto GLS Tri Pack with rear locker, 3" Lift, 33" Federal M/T, 100w 9" spotties & 3 stubby holders.

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          • #6
            depends how far you raise them, too far and you have problems or need to trim the bumpstops.
            without being offensive a big rookie mistake is to just wind them up as far as you can without actually checking clearances, but then places like this help because we can learn how to sort it out.
            Current vehicles: 1995 3.5l nj Pajero x 2, 1995 2.8td Mitsubishi Delica,2011 Jeep Patriot, 2 x 1971 ta 22 celicas, 74 ta 22 celica, ke 35 corollla with 18rg, 95 gtr 1000, 79 leyland terrier bus ( 350 chev),1978 ke 35 corolla, 1980 ra 40 celica 18rgeu,2011 agricat jd495
            Currently wrecking nh gls lwb, nh gl pov pack, 2 x nj gls lwb nl lwb, NH glx manual, 92 L300 delica

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            • #7
              I have trimmed the bumpstops, and i do have clearance there maybe just not enough. I'm heading back out to have another look.
              91 NH Dual Fuel 3ltr V6 Auto GLS Tri Pack with rear locker, 3" Lift, 33" Federal M/T, 100w 9" spotties & 3 stubby holders.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by schnitzel View Post
                depends how far you raise them, too far and you have problems or need to trim the bumpstops.
                without being offensive a big rookie mistake is to just wind them up as far as you can without actually checking clearances, but then places like this help because we can learn how to sort it out.
                Not wrong there. This place has helped me sort a few things out and pointed out the errors of my ways

                Gap is very important. At the least, you wanna be able to stick your thumb in there(around 15-20mm roughly), the more gap the better but obviously you want lift so a thumb gap at minimum.
                97' NK 3ltr GLX LWB Manual | 3" lift | Wildcat headers | K&N air filter | 2.8 crawl gears | 4Terrain clutch | 2.25" exhaust | Factory locker rear | TJM 10,000lb winch | TJM snorkel
                97' NL GLS LWB Auto | 6G75 3.8ltr | Redback Headers

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                • #9
                  I'm at a happy medium......not quite a thumb but definately 15mm. Lot less lift but suspension has travel now. Spose that's as high as she goes then without a body lift.
                  91 NH Dual Fuel 3ltr V6 Auto GLS Tri Pack with rear locker, 3" Lift, 33" Federal M/T, 100w 9" spotties & 3 stubby holders.

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                  • #10
                    about as good as you can get then. If the ride is too harsh it means you have reached the end of the spring torque in the bars.
                    Current vehicles: 1995 3.5l nj Pajero x 2, 1995 2.8td Mitsubishi Delica,2011 Jeep Patriot, 2 x 1971 ta 22 celicas, 74 ta 22 celica, ke 35 corollla with 18rg, 95 gtr 1000, 79 leyland terrier bus ( 350 chev),1978 ke 35 corolla, 1980 ra 40 celica 18rgeu,2011 agricat jd495
                    Currently wrecking nh gls lwb, nh gl pov pack, 2 x nj gls lwb nl lwb, NH glx manual, 92 L300 delica

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                    • #11
                      Any chance you could measure the height to the edge of the guards? Either from the ground or the rim.

                      Have you put GQ coils in the rear?
                      1992 NH GLX V6 3000 5sp manual. Stock as a rock (at the moment anyway )

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                      • #12
                        handbook says 21mm to 23 mm gap between lower bumpstop rubber and bumpstop
                        93 diesel, 2.5 turbo, roof rack, rear ladder, dual batteries, aftermarket HID lights, factory rear locker, aftermarket oil pressure, exhaust gas temp, voltmeter & water temp, factory PTO/winch, bull bar

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Dudleybeek View Post
                          handbook says 21mm to 23 mm gap between lower bumpstop rubber and bumpstop
                          Yep, that's for factory height recommended setting.
                          Once you lift it up you just have to make sure there's a good gap on the upper droop stops to atleast allow a bit of down travel so it's not taking weight off the wheel around corners etc
                          97' NK 3ltr GLX LWB Manual | 3" lift | Wildcat headers | K&N air filter | 2.8 crawl gears | 4Terrain clutch | 2.25" exhaust | Factory locker rear | TJM 10,000lb winch | TJM snorkel
                          97' NL GLS LWB Auto | 6G75 3.8ltr | Redback Headers

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by schnitzel View Post
                            have you still got a minimum of 12mm clearance between the upper control arm and bumpstop if not you will do damage. if the front suspension has gone hard it normally means the bumpstop ids hitting, raising the ride height with the torsion bar should not significantly stiffen the ride.
                            is this 18mm front end raised or when on the ground?

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by davecambo View Post
                              is this 18mm front end raised or when on the ground?
                              When on the ground mate.
                              The torsionbars travel is well past full droop so when you raise the car with a jack the torsionbars will try and push the wheels down but the droop stop rubbers (I.e upper control arm rubbers) stop it and the torsionbar is still under a lot of strain.
                              97' NK 3ltr GLX LWB Manual | 3" lift | Wildcat headers | K&N air filter | 2.8 crawl gears | 4Terrain clutch | 2.25" exhaust | Factory locker rear | TJM 10,000lb winch | TJM snorkel
                              97' NL GLS LWB Auto | 6G75 3.8ltr | Redback Headers

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