Hi, still not happy
Hands up all those with a NP DiD 3.2 Pajero and have weighed it. (NM probably much the same)
I did a few days ago - 3 TIMES - 2 different weighbridges, 1 a registered one, the other a newer unregistered one but much more acurate - the results still the same. This was all in preparation to try and comply with road rules for my upcoming caravaning holiday after hearing reports of road traffic authorities starting to vigorously enforce them.
According to these weights, I cannot legally drive my now pretty much stock GXL Pajero with my wife as passenger because the front axle mass is 1225kg, 25kg over the maximum front axle mass specified in the owners manual, therefore unroadworthy, therefore uninsured, therefore I don't really know what anymore.
With the steel bull bar & driving lights, the front axle mass with no driver or passenger was 1195kg - 5kg under max. With driver, 1250kg, 50kg over max. with wife, front axle mass was estimated to be 1285kg - 85kg over max. - bull bar now removed and plastic std. bumper?? refitted.
The driver, me, is no lightweight 115kg, wife about 68kg, but I was't told 2 1/2 years ago when I purchased the new vehicle that there were any weight restrictions to legally drive it or I would have to lose about 50kg to do so. (pretty much exactly 1/2 the driver and passenger weight goes to the front axle) Only a small percentage of middle seat pasengers weight ends up on the front axle, but they still add to it.
It appears as though Mitsubishi use a standard person weight of 68kg in their calculations for the specification tables with virtually no tolerance for any variance of a person's weight over that.
At the moment, a very helpfull and sympathetic Mitsubishi dealer's service manager is following this up for me and hopefully Mitsubishi will see the error of their ways and suitably revise the spec.s, but I think this may all be wishfull thinking unless some others also lobby Mitsubishi to correct this poor situation.
It gets very difficult when towing a caravan to comply with vehicle mass limits with a 235kg ball weight when restricted by such unrealistic starting points.
Anyone with a higher spec.ed GLS or Exceed must be in real trouble weight wise because the Exceed's base kerb mass is 80kg more than my GXL, most of that 80kg of trinkets etc. must be on the front axle.
Pity help any one with a 50kg steel winch bar still fitted, let alone 40kg winches and additinal batteries all of which have their total mass added to the front axle or worse - to caculate extra mass of bar & winch, muliply by about 1.25 - 2nd battery is near enough over front axle. GXL with no-one in it with steel winch bar and winch would have a calculated front axle mass of around 1245kg.
How did Mitsubishi get around this for the Police Pack Pajero as seen in the eastern states? A couple of burly coppers, radio equipment, policing aids & trinkets must have seen a front axle mass approaching 150-200kg over the Mitsubishi front axle maximum. There used to be a photo of a police Pajero with steel winch bar & winch on the web somewhere - does anyone know where to find it now or if anyone has it, how about posting it in a reply.
By the way, I don't for a second believe Mitsubishi is any orphan in this regard - any new suggestions? in addition to the ones in the old forum thread "NP weighbridge weights - not good"
Mal
Hands up all those with a NP DiD 3.2 Pajero and have weighed it. (NM probably much the same)
I did a few days ago - 3 TIMES - 2 different weighbridges, 1 a registered one, the other a newer unregistered one but much more acurate - the results still the same. This was all in preparation to try and comply with road rules for my upcoming caravaning holiday after hearing reports of road traffic authorities starting to vigorously enforce them.
According to these weights, I cannot legally drive my now pretty much stock GXL Pajero with my wife as passenger because the front axle mass is 1225kg, 25kg over the maximum front axle mass specified in the owners manual, therefore unroadworthy, therefore uninsured, therefore I don't really know what anymore.
With the steel bull bar & driving lights, the front axle mass with no driver or passenger was 1195kg - 5kg under max. With driver, 1250kg, 50kg over max. with wife, front axle mass was estimated to be 1285kg - 85kg over max. - bull bar now removed and plastic std. bumper?? refitted.
The driver, me, is no lightweight 115kg, wife about 68kg, but I was't told 2 1/2 years ago when I purchased the new vehicle that there were any weight restrictions to legally drive it or I would have to lose about 50kg to do so. (pretty much exactly 1/2 the driver and passenger weight goes to the front axle) Only a small percentage of middle seat pasengers weight ends up on the front axle, but they still add to it.
It appears as though Mitsubishi use a standard person weight of 68kg in their calculations for the specification tables with virtually no tolerance for any variance of a person's weight over that.
At the moment, a very helpfull and sympathetic Mitsubishi dealer's service manager is following this up for me and hopefully Mitsubishi will see the error of their ways and suitably revise the spec.s, but I think this may all be wishfull thinking unless some others also lobby Mitsubishi to correct this poor situation.
It gets very difficult when towing a caravan to comply with vehicle mass limits with a 235kg ball weight when restricted by such unrealistic starting points.
Anyone with a higher spec.ed GLS or Exceed must be in real trouble weight wise because the Exceed's base kerb mass is 80kg more than my GXL, most of that 80kg of trinkets etc. must be on the front axle.
Pity help any one with a 50kg steel winch bar still fitted, let alone 40kg winches and additinal batteries all of which have their total mass added to the front axle or worse - to caculate extra mass of bar & winch, muliply by about 1.25 - 2nd battery is near enough over front axle. GXL with no-one in it with steel winch bar and winch would have a calculated front axle mass of around 1245kg.
How did Mitsubishi get around this for the Police Pack Pajero as seen in the eastern states? A couple of burly coppers, radio equipment, policing aids & trinkets must have seen a front axle mass approaching 150-200kg over the Mitsubishi front axle maximum. There used to be a photo of a police Pajero with steel winch bar & winch on the web somewhere - does anyone know where to find it now or if anyone has it, how about posting it in a reply.
By the way, I don't for a second believe Mitsubishi is any orphan in this regard - any new suggestions? in addition to the ones in the old forum thread "NP weighbridge weights - not good"
Mal
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