I've wondered the exact same thing about dpf oldn64. I think it's more basket swapping/daylight savings type thing-no real difference in the end, but there are less particulate emissions most of the time, so when they get checked for emissions they look better. Same sort of deal as stop start vehicles, look better emissions wise, but how much fuel do they actually save when is only when the vehicle is idling? I haven't done the sums, but I'm thinking that is more than offset by the more expensive batteries that are replaced more often
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Originally posted by disco stu View PostI've wondered the exact same thing about dpf oldn64. I think it's more basket swapping/daylight savings type thing-no real difference in the end, but there are less particulate emissions most of the time, so when they get checked for emissions they look better. Same sort of deal as stop start vehicles, look better emissions wise, but how much fuel do they actually save when is only when the vehicle is idling? I haven't done the sums, but I'm thinking that is more than offset by the more expensive batteries that are replaced more often95 White LWB Panda coloured GLS TD28 running 18psi 2inch lift, 2 inch body lift, factory rear LSD maxxis bighorn muddies 25,000klms after total engine rebuild - Club reged Currently around 307,000klms
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Stop - start technology is all about reducing emissions during the test in the laboratory.
Official fuel economy figures, which we all know are optimistic, are derived from the laboratory emissions test.
With my Golf GTD, on my daily commute, the best economy ever recorded by the onboard computer was when I was manually doing the stop-start at traffic lights - about 20% better than typical. Most times, doing manual stop-start, indicated consumption was not discernibly different from typical. I quickly stopped bothering.
Technically, it makes a difference to fuel consumption. Is the difference worth the extra complexity and battery consumption? I doubt it.NT Platinum. DiD Auto with 265/70R17 ST Maxx, Lift, Lockers, Lockup Mate, Low range reduction, LRA Aux tank, bull bar, winch, lots of touring stuff. Flappy paddles. MMCS is gone!
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Originally posted by nj swb View PostStop - start technology is all about reducing emissions during the test in the laboratory.
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While I am a keen motorhead, I am not brand conscious. I will buy the model that specifically meets my needs after much research - irrespective of manufacturer. My challenge with some vehicles ( especially Toyota) is that the price and reputation exceed their real value.
We have a 1998 Toyota Seca in the driveway with over 300k kms that starts on the first key turn, never lets us down and uses no oil. But I will not buy a Prado or Hilux! I have a Pajero that I am perfectly happy with even if it is an underpowered donkey - not much different to a Prado, and after watching this dangerous handling test of the Hilux ( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xoHbn8-ROiQ) I do not see myself in one even after they "Fixed" the issue with revised tyre pressures and ESP calibrations...( PS Toyota has the same issue with the current Rav 4..)
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This thread is an example of why I love this forum. Good people, great thinking, lively and informative dialogue.
Originally posted by bennyb29 View Post
Stop-start technology has to be the biggest farce in the name of reducing emissions. It's like saying if you keep your eyes closed, you see less and thereby lesser evil in the world.NX GLX manual, T13, XD9000, Koni RAID, Ultragauge, ISI carrier, pioneer platform, Lithium auxillary
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Originally posted by Mark RSA2AU View PostBut I will not buy a Prado or Hilux!
The power of brand recognition & runs on the board, how they currently are batting isn't even considered.
Hilux & Prado engines pop more pistons than Pajero's eat oil coolers.
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